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Jack of Ire Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 15 Sep 2006 From: The Grey Lands	Posted: Thursday, 21 September 2006 11:43PM
	Well the old thread is closed. But I believe there is still more things people would like to talk about. So I would like to start this new thread with one of my thoughts. I personally wouldn't like to have a large crew on the Normandy because I hate crowed places. Plus I like the idea of a hand full of people and myself against the world (or in this case, galaxy). Also does any one have other ideas of what should be on the ship? _________________ I believe that if all the people in the world sat down and tried to focus on peace and good will, all of the killing and chaos in the world would continue and probably increase. Edited By Jack of Ire on 09/22/06 00:00

sportforredneck Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 18 Apr 2005 From: Already Gone	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 01:54AM
	Quote: Posted 09/21/06 23:43:34 (GMT) by Jack of Ire Also does any one have other ideas of what should be on the ship? I would like the Normandy to just plain have things to do, maybe side quests involving inside it or something, since the Ebon Hawk rarely had that, it had a few, but I would just like a few more side quests that take place just on the Normandy, or basically just on the Normandy.

Chad44 Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Mass Effect Joined: 11 Mar 2003 From: U.S.S.R	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 06:54AM
	I would like a ship would lots of people since you are the spear of humanity. I need alot of troops for my War hawk ideas. _________________ For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. Edited By Chad44 on 09/22/06 07:01

Greg453V Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 23 Jan 2006 From: Austria	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 01:48PM
	Er ... the last Tread was colsed cause it raised the 10 page mark??? Dose the server brake down if it hate to hadel treads with more then 10 pages, dosn´t it? Hey!! You want to make a MMOPG, aren´t you?!?! A tread with more then 10 pages shoulden´t be a problem, are it? Anyway: I like the idear of quests on the normandy. I would like to see if you realy get good thing for them. For exampel: If you purchase in a new workshop, youre machanikan is so happy that he tells you wher you get a better hamvee, but the only Hamvee the dealer got is brocken, but he´ll make you the Hamvve as a present (I hope I spellend it right) if you take a jung (bothering) guy in your crew. After a while the Hamvee is repared, but suddenly the new guy was goen with the new Hamvee .... In the end of the Quest, after you´ve fly a huge battel shipe, killed the Overlord of an planet with a nukular blast, you´ll get a littel medal, which give you the power to shoot killing plant seeds. Or some thing like that... I know I got a crazy phantasy _________________ This is 10% Luck 20% Skill 15% concentrated power of will 5% pleasure 50% pain That 100% make a Game

king of seals Game Owner NWN NWN: SoU NWN: HotU Jade Empire NWN 2 NWN 2: MotB Mass Effect Joined: 28 Jun 2005 From: Italy	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 02:34PM
	Quote: Posted 09/21/06 23:43:34 (GMT) by Jack of Ire Also does any one have other ideas of what should be on the ship? Let me see, you'll have your six-wheeled terrestrial vehicle on it. On the trailer, the Normandy does not look that big, so your crew will likely consist only of your character and his or her teammates. Weapons (both for the team and the ship herself) would be appreciated, as well as medical, pharmaceutical equipment. And obviously backup materials and tools to repair armor and vehicles. Edited By king of seals on 09/22/06 14:38

BananaCologne Game Owner Mass Effect Mass Effect PC Joined: 18 Jul 2006	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 02:44PM
	I think (at least for later games in the series) it would be nice to increase the scope of the game even further by allowing a choice/choices of WHO you take on The Normandy from certain points at the beginning of the game - maybe even down to being able to persuade partnered bounty hunters etc to split, leaving their compadres behind. Essentially, being able to add a number of people to your crew as you wish sounds pretty cool to me. Anyway, so far this game sounds like something I've always dreamed of yet never thought I'd get to see having been let down so many times before with brazen promises etc. Now the technology is here and capable, and in the hands of Bioware noless, 2007 really can't come fast enough. Bring it on! BC

Chris L'Etoile Designer Joined: 03 Sep 2004 From: (in yr mindshare, hacking yr memes)	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 04:34PM
	Guys, I was clued into this discussion just after the last thread closed. I wanted to quickly point out that it's been said the Normandy is a frigate, not a dreadnought. The role of a frigate is neither fighting in the line of battle nor bombarding enemy ground forces. They're small, fast ships that perform independent scouting, gather together into fast attack flotillas to hit & run larger, slower vessels, or fulfill escort duties for larger ships. Normandy has some special features that allow it to fulfill the first role particularly well. _________________ "Ah, I can feel it. "The ocean inside me." - Earth Maiden Arjuna Music Games

MusicDan Moderator Joined: 25 Jan 2006 From: LOC, The Garden Of England.	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 05:34PM
	Quote: Posted 09/22/06 14:34:34 (GMT) by king of seals Quote: Posted 09/21/06 23:43:34 (GMT) by Jack of Ire Also does any one have other ideas of what should be on the ship? Let me see, you'll have your six-wheeled terrestrial vehicle on it. On the trailer, the Normandy does not look that big, so your crew will likely consist only of your character and his or her teammates. Weapons (both for the team and the ship herself) would be appreciated, as well as medical, pharmaceutical equipment. And obviously backup materials and tools to repair armor and vehicles. Well I think the crew/ship may be a little bigger than that, though I have to agree that the Normandy did not look very big in the E3 video... "We aren't talking a ship the size of the Ebon Hawke; this is a hulking ship with a full complement of crew." From Click Here "Casey: Mass Effect is an IP of tremendous scope. Each planet or quest is, in a sense, an "episode" of Mass Effect with a surprising and original theme. Over the course of the entire game, you will have experienced a wide range of strange and exciting locations and experiences. You'll travel around the galaxy in a state-of-the-art starship. Inside, you'll be able to explore several different decks and talk with crewmembers about your mission. The locations for the main story are actually set within an even larger exploreable part of the galaxy. We were looking forward to creating our own IP for a number of reasons, one of them being the possibility to expand the scope of player experience beyond what we've been able to do previously. In Mass Effect, one of the most exciting new features is the ability to truly explore the galaxy that surrounds the main story. Without going into too much detail (yet!), you'll be able to navigate through deep space to a large number of star systems, then orbit uncharted planets and even explore their surfaces on foot. This is a completely non-linear exploration experience for the player, which ties into the main story in some really fun and rewarding ways." From Click Here Sorry Chris I think I started this by quoting one of my old posts from April, I thought I had made that clear but obviously not clear enough sorry guys . And here is some more info on frigates that I posted in a topic Click Here a wile ago... Your ship (at least in the first game "Normandy" according to Bob is a frigate class vessel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigate so given that I wouldn't expect it to be directly involved in any heavy fighting. As far as weapons go looks can be very deceptive most modern navy ships (USA/UK anyway) use Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) Click Here , guns really are now obsolete as ship to ship weapons what ever some films may lead us to believe . A space ship using VLS or a similar system would not necessarily have any visible weapons, I think this type of system would make a lot of sense as it appears that the Normandy is going to enter a planets atmosphere/land and exposed weapons would probably take a hell of a beating from that. As a side point as your ship is classed as a frigate I expect either in this game or the later ones you will come across other classes of space vessel, destroyer, cruiser, battleship and aircraft carrier? I think you will find the look/size and weapons on those far more to your taste. As for Normandy's size based on the current type 23 frigate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_23_frigate serving with the Royal Navy which has a crew of 185, I expect for various reasons that the Normandy would have a smaller crew (much), greater automation, the fact that the life support system requirements required would increases with every crew member, plus BioWare wont be able to make too many crew member models for your crew... but even decreasing the crew size I expect things like food/water supplies, fuel, engines capable of FTL travel, etc would require a greater area of the ships internal space so as a very rough guide (assuming BioWare are paying ANY attention to reality) I'd look at the Type 23 frigates dimensions Length: 133m (436.2ft) Beam: 16.1m (52.8ft) Displacement: 4,900 tonnes fl" Hope that helps, all the best MusicDan _________________ "When in doubt, make a fool of yourself. There is a microscopically thin line between being brilliantly creative and acting like the most gigantic idiot on earth. So what the hell, leap." Cynthia Heimel, 1947-, America columnist. Edited By MusicDan on 09/22/06 17:41

Greg453V Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 23 Jan 2006 From: Austria	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 07:08PM
	Er ... do you realy know what a frigate is? Ok, I´m no expert and I heven´t read it anywere, but I´ve heared from someone, who built them!. Blom + Voss Frigats a ships over 100m, (and thats it:) previews colled: destroier!!!, they ARE battel ships!! Now they just colled frigate, cause destoier sound so bad (dont ask me why... ) So every ship over 100m is a frigate and full armed, if you want a corvette (still full armed ship) you´ll have to shorte the normandy under 100m. A exampel of a fregat: The Frigate F124: lenght: ca 143m Staff: max 255! 17! weapons (8 differnt systems) and whith stealth technik Frigat F124 Ok, they used for patrols, but they can fight!! Ps: MusikDan ... why are your treads as long as thes are?? OK you good informed, but ...make it pease short, its boring to read a long tread ... and afer you finshed you´ve forgotten the beginning ... _________________ This is 10% Luck 20% Skill 15% concentrated power of will 5% pleasure 50% pain That 100% make a Game Edited By Greg453V on 09/22/06 19:16

Catfish Jones Game Owner NWN NWN: SoU NWN: HotU Mass Effect Joined: 19 Jul 2004	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 07:57PM
	I'd like an arcade machine in the Normandy. Specifically, an arcade machine of the full version of Bioware's upcoming handheld game.

Chris L'Etoile Designer Joined: 03 Sep 2004 From: (in yr mindshare, hacking yr memes)	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 09:09PM
	Quote: Posted 09/22/06 19:08:46 (GMT) by Greg453V Frigats a ships over 100m, (and thats it:) previews colled: destroier!!!, they ARE battel ships!! I think this is a small translation problem. Let me try to explain. In English, any armed vessel, regardless of its size, is called a "warship." A "battleship" is what we call a very large armed vessel designed for sea dominance, shore bombardment, and fleet command. In WWI and earlier, battleships were called dreadnoughts (and in fact that's what we call them in ME). So Normandy is a warship, but it's not a battleship. ^_^ _________________ "Ah, I can feel it. "The ocean inside me." - Earth Maiden Arjuna Music Games Edited By Chris L'Etoile on 09/22/06 21:09

Jack of Ire Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 15 Sep 2006 From: The Grey Lands	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 09:25PM
	So the ship won't be a battle ship. Too bad. But I do like the idea of a smaller ship. It would be like your small home away from home. Like a flying RV (Mystery Science Theatre 3000 fans should know what I'm talking about). _________________ I believe that if all the people in the world sat down and tried to focus on peace and good will, all of the killing and chaos in the world would continue and probably increase.

TheHumanFlea Joined: 08 Feb 2006 From: Canada. Bioware could be my twin	Posted: Friday, 22 September 2006 11:09PM
	I want some good old fashioned space pirates to randomly try to take over the Normandy now and then between planets. _________________ "You've just been struck by...a smoooth human fleaa. Du du..dudududu..."

Jack of Ire Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Jade Empire Mass Effect Joined: 15 Sep 2006 From: The Grey Lands	Posted: Saturday, 23 September 2006 12:25AM
	Quote: Posted 09/22/06 23:09:29 (GMT) by TheHumanFlea I want some good old fashioned space pirates to randomly try to take over the Normandy now and then between planets. Or perhaps you could act like the space pirates and take over another ship, then steal there booty. AAARRRRR! And they would call me Capt'n Jack. Yeah,I know the name has been taken but I don't care. I could sneek abored and cut of the main power, then let my guys take care of the crew. Back on the ship I would celebrate with a glass of Rum. Wait........Why's the rum always gone? _________________ I believe that if all the people in the world sat down and tried to focus on peace and good will, all of the killing and chaos in the world would continue and probably increase.

Celtic_Cow Game Owner SW: KotOR Xbox Mass Effect Joined: 06 Aug 2006 From: The Great White North	Posted: Saturday, 23 September 2006 01:17AM
	If you cut the power you'd need special gravity suits to counteract the weightlessness, since by cutting the main power you'd take out wait nvm (d'oh back up generators). In any case cutting the power wouldn't do much good unless you got both main and all back up generators, and THEN you'd need special suits to protevt you form the void, weightlessness etc..I'd at least like to see SOME (visible)weapons on the Normandy. At least on the Ebon Hawk you didn't feel like you were flying a giant defensless box . Also, only if a little bit, frigate to frigate or frigate to destroyer combat (obviously hit and run) that'd be sweet. my bad i thought some one said something about the weapons on the outside burning up in atmosphere :S. That wouldn't happen if the shell was made of the same stuff as the rest of the hull (which it would be) therefore it wouldn't burn up. Cuz that'd be a pretty useless ship .